Dinner Conversation Cheat-Sheet

Cho Nam Je(新任 APJC SA Director,韩国人,长驻澳洲 ANZ)的晚餐 · 东道主 Wang Bo

场景:西安 Tech Summit 期间 · 社交为主、顺带聊工作

🤝 你们没正式认识,仅 7月KL leadership meeting 见他台上讲话 🧭 他第一次来中国 · 刚升 APJC SA Director 👥 共同熟人:Phon(他团队)、Adrian(前ANZ SA,已去 Snowflake)
用法:加粗英文照着说;橙色是中文意思/时机;斜体是他可能的回应;高亮是可临场替换的词。紫框是给你的背景弹药(万一聊到)。

1开场破冰 · 见面寒暄

关键:你们其实没认识过。别说“久仰/终于见到你”,而是用“KL 见过你讲话”破冰——真实、不尴尬,还显得你早就关注他。

破冰开场(真实版)

Hi Nam Je, I'm Henry. We haven't actually met, but I saw you speak at the APJC leadership meeting in KL back in July — great to meet you properly now.用“在 KL 见过你讲话”破冰,比假装有交情自然得多。properly = 这次算正式认识了。
And congratulations on the new role — it's great to have you leading SA across APJC. Really good news for the region.对领导恭喜的正确姿势:只祝贺 + 说“你来带 APJC 是好事、对区域是好消息”,不去评判“这对你是一次跃升”(那样像自上而下打分,从下级说出来不合适)。
And welcome to China! I hear it's your first time here — how are you finding it so far?点出第一次来华;how are you finding it = 问初印象的地道说法。"Great, but it's been non-stop." → "I bet — the summit's packed."

共同熟人(一下子拉近关系)

I think we might have one or two people in common. Phon's on your team, right? I've crossed paths with Phon a couple of times.如实说法:你和 Phon 只是打过照面、聊过两次,没深交。crossed paths = 打过照面/碰到过,不夸大交情。
And I go back a few years with Adrian — I heard he's just moved on to Snowflake.go back a few years = 认识好几年了;moved on to = 跳槽去了。Adrian 刚离职去 Snowflake。
Adrian 背景弹药(若他接话问你们怎么认识): "Adrian and I go back to when I ran the GCR Solutions Engineering team — I was building customer solutions, and he was leading partner solutions engineering, doing the QuickStart builds on partner products. We were both part of the same Solutions Engineering federation, so we shared the dev standards and release process — even worked with Steve Morad's WWSO team back then. Small world."
其它安全开场:行程 “How was the trip up from Sydney?” · 酒店 “Is the hotel treating you well?” · 西安/summit “How's the summit going for you?”

2你的自我介绍

肯定会轮到自我介绍。一段话讲清:现在做什么 → 焦点(GenAI) → 之前经历 → 一句私人收尾。控制在 30–40 秒。

Hi everyone — I'm Henry Xu. I lead the Industry Solutions R&D team here in China. My team is about twenty people — applied scientists, product managers and solutions engineers — and we build ready-to-deploy solutions for specific industries, things our SA teams and customers can put straight into production. For the last couple of years my focus has been Generative and Agentic AI — we build solutions that help customers get their agentic applications into production faster. Before AWS I spent many years at Dell, running the networking and solutions business across Greater China. And I'm based here in Beijing with my family. 中文意思:我叫 Henry,带中国的 Industry Solutions R&D 团队,约 20 人(应用科学家/PM/解决方案工程师),做面向具体行业、可直接上生产的方案。近两年聚焦 GenAI 与 Agentic AI,帮客户更快把 agentic 应用落地。之前在 Dell 负责大中华区网络与方案业务多年。现常驻北京、和家人在一起。
超短版(快速轮到时):"I'm Henry — I lead Industry Solutions R&D in China. We build production-ready industry solutions, these days mostly around GenAI and agentic AI."

3闲聊话题 · 提问接话

多问、多听、找共同点。围绕:澳洲/ANZ 生活 → 新角色 → 西安/中餐(下一节展开)→ 邀他来北京(第 7 节)。

🇦🇺 澳洲 / ANZ

So you've been based in Australia a while — whereabouts, Sydney?whereabouts = 具体在哪一带,很地道。
How does China compare to Australia so far? The pace must feel pretty different.开放式对比题,好接话。
As a Korean who's spent years in Australia — and now covering all of APJC — you've got a real regional view.点出他跨韩国/澳洲/全区的独特视角,是很好的恭维。

🌏 新角色

Going from ANZ to the whole of APJC — how are you settling in?settling in = 适应得如何。
The region's huge and diverse — I'd imagine no two markets are alike.共鸣他的挑战。
China's a big part of your patch now — that's got to be exciting.patch =(口语)你负责的地盘,把话引到中国。
接话小工具:"Really? What a coincidence!" · "Same here." · "That reminds me…" · 想词时争取时间 "That's a good question — let me think for a second."

4介绍西安 · 文化与特色

当下就在西安,聊眼前的城市最自然。三张牌:面食 → 古都历史 → 兵马俑(你也没去过,可以“一起没去过”当话题)。

🍜 西安面食 · 话题①:这里是“面食的天下”

Xi'an sits in the north, and this whole region runs on wheat rather than rice. So instead of a bowl of rice, the staple here is noodles, dumplings and steamed bread. Locals even joke that Shaanxi has "ten strange wonders," and several of them are about food. There's a saying that here a bowl of noodles can be as wide as a belt! Honestly, you could have a different noodle dish every day for a week and never repeat.西安在北方,整片地区以小麦为主食(不是南方的米饭),主食是面、饺子、馒头。当地有“陕西十大怪”的说法,好几怪都跟吃有关;还有“面条像裤带”的说法。一周每天吃不同的面都不重样——用来开场夸西安面食,很讨喜。

🍜 西安面食 · 话题②:biangbiang 面

The one you have to try is biang-biang noodles. They're long, wide, hand-pulled noodles — almost like flat belts. They're topped with chili and garlic, and at the end they pour sizzling hot oil over the top. But the fun part is the name: the character for "biang" is one of the most complex in the whole Chinese language — over fifty strokes — and most Chinese people can't even write it from memory. There's actually a little rhyme locals use just to remember how to write it.必吃 biangbiang 面:又长又宽的手工扯面,像裤带;配辣椒蒜末、最后泼一勺滚油(“油泼面”)。亮点是“biang”字——汉字里最复杂之一,五十多笔,多数中国人都写不出,还有专门的口诀来记。老外通常对这个字特别感兴趣,是很好的谈资。

🍜 西安面食 · 话题③:肉夹馍

Another local favorite is roujiamo — people jokingly call it the "Chinese hamburger." It's slow-braised meat, chopped up and packed into a warm, crispy flatbread. The meat is stewed for hours in a broth with dozens of spices, so it's incredibly tender and rich. Locals will proudly tell you it's actually far older than the Western burger — some trace it back over two thousand years. It's the classic street snack here — you grab one and eat it on the go.另一招牌是肉夹馍——大家戏称“中式汉堡”。腊汁肉炖数小时(几十种香料)、剁碎夹进温热酥脆的白吉馍。当地人会自豪地说它比西方汉堡早得多,有两千多年历史。是最经典的街头小吃,边走边吃。on the go = 边走边吃。

🍜 西安面食 · 话题④:回民街

If you get a free evening, the Muslim Quarter is the place to go. It's a famous old food street, packed with little stalls and the smell of grilled lamb everywhere. You'll find hand-pulled noodles, lamb skewers, persimmon cakes — all kinds of snacks in one place. And it goes back centuries: the neighborhood grew up around Xi'an's role on the Silk Road, when traders from Central Asia settled here. It's at its liveliest at night, so it's a great place to just wander and graze.若有空的晚上,回民街值得去:著名的老小吃街,摊子林立、满街烤羊肉香;有拉面、羊肉串、黄桂柿子饼等。它有几百年历史,因西安是丝路重镇、中亚商人聚居而形成。夜里最热闹,适合边逛边吃。graze = (像吃草一样)边走边尝小吃。

🏯 古都历史

Xi'an is one of China's four great ancient capitals — it was the imperial capital for thirteen dynasties.四大古都之一,先后是十三个朝代的都城/皇城。
Back then it was called Chang'an, and it was the eastern starting point of the ancient Silk Road — one of the biggest cities in the world at the time.古称长安,是丝绸之路的东方起点,当时世界最大城市之一。
It still has the best-preserved city wall in China — you can actually cycle the full loop on top of it.保存最完好的古城墙,还能在城墙上骑自行车绕一圈——很受游客欢迎的点。

🗿 兵马俑(你也没去过,正好当共同话题)

Have you had a chance to see the Terracotta Warriors yet? Funnily enough, I've never been either — maybe we're both overdue!问他去过没;坦白你也没去过(funnily enough = 说来也怪),overdue = 早该去了,轻松自嘲。
It's the tomb of China's first emperor — an entire army of life-size clay soldiers, and no two faces are the same.秦始皇陵,成千上万真人大小的陶俑,每张脸都不一样。
A farmer digging a well stumbled on them back in the '70s — one of the biggest finds of the last century.1974 年农民打井时偶然发现,20 世纪最重大的考古发现之一。stumble on = 无意中发现。

5聊工作 · 你的团队与方案

他是 SA 头,会关心你团队做什么、怎么和 SA 协作。讲清 1–2 个方案例子,开源项目一定要展开解释(first-time audience 听不懂缩写)。

团队在做什么(举例)

My team's about twenty people, and we build industry-specific solutions across areas like manufacturing, retail, financial services and healthcare.约 20 人,做跨行业的行业专有方案。
Let me give you two examples, both from about two years ago. The first is a healthcare solution we called the Medical Insights Hub. It's essentially an AI agent that helps medical customers translate product manuals and draft specialized documents.例子一(约两年前):面向医疗行业的 Medical Insights Hub——一个 AI agent,帮客户翻译产品手册、撰写专业文档。
The tricky part in medical is terminology — one wrong term in a drug manual is a serious problem. So we built a retrieval system on top of a specialized medical glossary, so that every technical term gets translated correctly.医疗行业专用词汇极多,翻错一个术语后果严重。所以我们基于专有医学词库做了一套检索系统,保证专业术语被正确翻译。
It took a 500-page manual from over two weeks of outsourced translation down to a matter of hours, and pushed terminology accuracy from around 80% to over 95%.效果:500 页手册从外包两周多缩短到数小时;术语准确率从约 80% 提升到 95% 以上。给他一组硬数字。
MIH 技术弹药(若他 dive deep 问“怎么做到的”): "The real challenge was recall speed. Injecting a glossary into the prompt worked for a couple of hundred terms, but big-pharma dictionaries like WHODrug run into the millions. So we used Amazon OpenSearch percolate — a reverse-index where each glossary term is stored as a query, and the source text is matched against all of them in milliseconds. We then fed the matched terms into a structured prompt to constrain the model. That's what got us to 95%+ accuracy at million-term scale." 中文:难点是“百万级术语的实时召回”。把词库塞进 prompt 只适合几百词;像 WHODrug 这种百万级词典就不行。于是用 OpenSearch 的 percolate 反向索引——把每个术语存成一条 query,源文本作为查询体去匹配,毫秒级命中,再把命中的术语注入结构化 prompt 约束模型,于是在百万级词库上做到 95%+。

团队在做什么(例子二)

The second, also about two years ago, was a multimodal video analysis solution. We break a video down into frames so the system actually understands what's happening in it, and then you can search the footage in plain language.例子二(约两年前):多模态视频分析。通过抽帧让系统真正理解视频内容,然后用自然语言检索画面。
It was useful in security — for example, quickly finding the clips that might show a safety risk, instead of scrubbing through hours of footage.在安防领域有用:快速定位可能有安全风险的片段,不用人工翻看几小时录像。
We've since evolved it so you can slice and search video by text or image. Some customers now use it to build their advertising creative libraries.后来迭代成可基于文字/图片对视频做切片和检索;一些客户用它来构建广告素材库。

开源项目(务必展开,别只报名字)

We've open-sourced a few as public reference implementations. One is SwiftChat — a fast, cross-platform mobile AI chat app; basically a reference design for how to build a smooth chat client on top of Amazon Bedrock.SwiftChat:跨平台(iOS/安卓/桌面)的 AI 聊天 App,示范“如何在 Bedrock 上做一个流畅的聊天客户端”的参考实现。
Another is Bedrock Access Gateway — it puts an OpenAI-compatible API in front of Bedrock. So if a team already built something against the OpenAI SDK, they can point it at Bedrock models without rewriting their code.Bedrock Access Gateway:在 Bedrock 前面套一层“兼容 OpenAI 的接口”。团队原来照 OpenAI 写的代码,几乎不用改就能切到 Bedrock 的模型。

和他的 SA 组织连起来

A lot of what we build is really there to arm the SA teams and speed up customer PoCs.你们的方案是给 SA 团队“弹药”、加速客户 PoC——他会很受用。
I'd love to hear how you're thinking about GenAI for the SA teams across APJC.把话题抛回给他,倾听为主。他讲想法时:"That's a great point." / "You might be onto something there."
分寸:你目前不(虚线)汇报给他,今晚是 Wang Bo 请客。工作话题保持 peer collaboration(同侪协作) 的调子,别聊成向上汇报或谈资源/headcount。深入的留一句 "We should follow up on this properly sometime." 收尾。

6深聊:GenAI 正在改变方案研发的方式

这是能让他眼前一亮的“有观点”话题。逻辑链:过去的模式很成功 → 但 GenAI 冲击了它 → 现实其实更微妙 → 我在探索新方向。

Here's something I've been thinking a lot about lately. The solutions my team has built have been deployed by around two thousand customers worldwide over the years — that model worked really well. But GenAI is changing the game. These days a lot of people feel they've got a coding agent, so they can just build it themselves — so shipping a piece of ready-made software to SAs or customers is becoming less compelling. 过去我团队的方案累计被全球约 2000 个客户部署,这套模式很成功。但 GenAI 改变了游戏规则:现在很多人觉得“我有 coding agent,自己就能做”,所以“交付一套现成软件给 SA 或客户”这条路吸引力在下降。
The thing is, that's not quite the full picture. What most people get out of AI today is a prototype or a demo — whereas the bar we hold is production-grade, something a customer can actually run in production. That gap is real. 但现实更微妙:大多数人用 AI 做出来的其实是原型/demo;而我们坚持的是生产级质量、客户能真正上生产的东西——这个差距是真实存在的。
So I'm exploring whether there's a better way to enable customers. Maybe what we should be shipping isn't the software itself, but the capability to build — not a product, but a service. It's still early, but I think that could be a direction. 所以我在探索更好的赋能方式:也许我们该输出的不是软件本身,而是“开发能力”——不是产品,而是服务。还很早期,但我觉得这可能是个方向。
收尾把球给他:"I'd be curious how this looks from the SA side — are you seeing the same shift?"(我很想知道从 SA 视角看是不是也有同样的转变?)——把观点变成对话,而不是独白。

7邀请来北京 · 介绍北京 · 当他的导游

本次关键动作。先发出邀请,再用“烤鸭 / 紫禁城 / 长城”把北京讲活,最后主动说“我带你去”。

发出邀请

Now that China's on your radar, do you have any plans to come up to Beijing?on your radar = 进入你的关注范围。"Not yet, but I'd love to." → 接下面
You really can't say you've been to China until you've been to Beijing — and I'd be happy to show you around myself.半开玩笑:没到北京不算来过中国。主动提出当导游。

🦆 北京烤鸭(展开讲,最出彩)

First thing I'd take you for is Peking duck — it's the one dish you have to try in Beijing.先说必吃烤鸭。
The skin is the prized part — crispy, and they roast it so the fat renders out. A master chef carves the whole duck at your table into around a hundred thin slices, each with a bit of skin and meat.最金贵的是脆皮;师傅当桌把整只鸭片成约上百片薄片,每片带皮带肉——“片鸭”这门手艺本身就是看点。render out = 把油脂烤出来。
Then you wrap it yourself in a thin pancake with spring onion, cucumber and a sweet bean sauce. The crispy skin you dip in a little sugar — sounds odd, tastes amazing.吃法:用薄饼卷鸭肉+葱丝+黄瓜+甜面酱;脆皮蘸白糖吃——听着怪,其实很惊艳。

🏰 紫禁城 & 长城

Then the Forbidden City — the imperial palace right in the heart of Beijing, home to twenty-four emperors. It's the largest palace complex in the world; you need a good half-day.紫禁城/故宫:市中心的皇宫,住过 24 位皇帝,世界最大宫殿群,得逛小半天。
And of course the Great Wall — the section near Beijing is spectacular. As the saying goes, "you're not a true hero until you've climbed the Great Wall."长城:北京段最壮观。引一句“不到长城非好汉”,老外很吃这套。
Give me a heads-up whenever you're planning a trip, and I'll sort it all out — consider me your tour guide.give me a heads-up = 提前说一声;sort it out = 我来安排;主动当导游,把邀请落到下一步。

8结束 · 道别 · 约后续

This has been a really enjoyable evening — thanks to Wang Bo for putting it together.先谢东道主 Wang Bo。
It's been a real pleasure, Nam Je. Great to have you in the region — I'm looking forward to working together across APJC.收束见面 + 表达期待合作。
Let's stay in touch — and do reach out whenever you're heading to Beijing. I'll drop you a note after the summit.stay in touch = 保持联系;drop you a note = 回头发消息、落实联系方式。
Enjoy the rest of your first trip to China — hope it's the first of many!温暖收尾:希望以后常来。
若要先离席:"I'm afraid I should start heading out soon" + 给个理由(early start tomorrow)。比 “I have to go” 委婉。

话题雷区

Avoid: politics · religion · marital status · age · salary/personal finances.政治、宗教、婚恋、年龄、薪资/财务——都别碰。
别抱怨(食物/天气/公司);第一次见面多用正面评价 + 推荐。
别一上来谈汇报线/资源/headcount;今晚是社交场,Wang Bo 是主人。